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Offline Snazzy

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Resto Shaman
« on: 26 May, 2012, 07:23:25 pm »
RAIDER APPLICATION FORM

ABOUT YOU:

Applications type (Social/PvP/Raider): Raider
Name: Eric
Age: 18
Country: Norway
What other games apart from WoW do you play?: Mostly Minecraft
A bit about yourself: I'm a nice guy seeking a friendly Guild. I'm an old Veteran, played Old School WoW, Clearer MC, BwL, Etc. I'm looking to get back into Raiding

ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER: My character is a restoration shaman, troll. It's my alt, but I want to make it my main. I don't really have alot of achivs on this character, but  feel free to check my main (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Magebolt/simple).

Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Snazzy/simple

Character name: Snazzy
Class: Shaman
Level: 85
Current server: Grim Batol
Spec(s): Restoration, Enchancement
Professions: Engineering, Mining
How often do you play WoW (typical weekly playtime and which hours)?: Like 5-10 hours
What high level alts do you have?:

ABOUT YOU AS PLAYER: I'm a well adapted player, meaning that if you want me to change something I can easily do so. I'm a nice guy and I like helping other Guildies out as much as I can. You will never hear me rage or call out names, because I find it to be negative.

Do you have Teamspeak? (Voice communication is essential to our raiding and it's highly recommended you get a mic if you don't have one already): Yes I have Teamspeak 3 and a working mic.

List the relevant raiding add-ons you use: Healbot, DBM, Recount, Spellflash, Tidyplates

We expect all members to attend any raids with food and flasks to last the whole raid night and being repaired and ready to pull at 20.00

Our Raid times are from 20:00 to 0:00 server time with invites starting at 19:30. On which days will you be available for the whole duration? (A raidgroup usually only raids up to 3 nights a week)
Wednesday: Available
Thursday: Available
Friday: Available
Saturday: I like going out on Saturdays, so I don't think I can meet up reguarly on Saturdays
Sunday: On Sundays I usually have a hangover
Monday: Available
Tuesday: Available

Have you been in another guild? (Yes/No): Yes, but I left because I wanted to PVP.

Which one(s)? And why did you leave?: "Reality" I left because they sold the guild.

Please list your relevant raid experience, stating which encounters you have personal experience of at the current level cap:
BwL, Onyxias, MC
TBC: I did some bosses in BT, but I mostly PVPed. When Sunwell came out I did some bosses there aswell.
Wotlk: VoA, ICC, Naxxramas, Onyxia's Lair, Trial of The Champion
Cata: BoT, BwD, FL, DS

Please link, if possible, any recent relevant logs (www.worldoflogs.com), so we can get an idea from your current performance in raids:

IMPORTANT:

Now when you are done with the "basics", we want you to explain a little about different aspects of your character.

Character:

Why did you chose the class you are now playing and the professions you selected?:
I chose to play a resto shaman because I think its one of the best healing classes. I have engineering because I wanted the enchants I get, but Im thinking about changing to LW.
Talent specialisation:
Restoration: 3/6/32

Would you be willing to change your build for the guild?: Yes, like I said, I can easily adapt to changes.
Do you have two viable PvE speccs?: Yes

Gear: My restoration gear is decent, but my dps gear isn't that great (Think its 387). But I'm gearing both my main and offspec.
 
Do you feel your character is sufficiently geared to compete in the Dragon Soul encounters?: Yes, with my experience I don't feel worried.
Where do you think your current equipment is lacking now?: I need to replace some miscellaneous
What stat-priority do you currently use (both secondary and primary stats, especially for tanks and healers), when gemming, enchanting and reforging your gear?:
Restoration: Int - Spirit - Haste - Mastery- Crit.
Red gem: 40/50 int.
Blue gem: 20int + 20 spirit
Yellow gem: 20 int + 20 haste

Enchancement: Agility - 17% spell hit - 26 expertise - Mastery - Crit
Red gem: 40/50 agility
Blue gem: 20 agility 20 hit
Yellow gem: 20 agility 20 mastery

Guild:
 
Do you know anyone in MoX who can vouch for you?: I recently became friends with Segev. I don't know if he can tell you I'm any good,
Why do you want to join MoX?: I want to join because you seem like a good guild. I have only talked with one member and I can allready tell you guys are mature.
What type of guild are you looking for?: I'm looking for a guild that is mature, experienced, friendly and raiding.


What are your goals in wow, what do you want to achieve and how long do you plan to keep playing?
I started playing this game one or two months after the release, and I plan to keep on playing until I'm happily married (I might even still play then ;) ). My goal is to keep having a good time like I've had since the day I bought the game. I would also like to join a guild and share a laugh.

Additional Information: I actually want to join the most with my mage. I've been playing on him since TBC and have alot of memories with that character. It's my main and link to armory is: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Magebolt/simple. The reason I dint apply with him is because I dont know if you are recruiting DPS. However, I would be happy to join with any of my characters :)

Confirmation that you have read, understood and agree to abide by the MoX Charter (Yes/No): Yes

Is there anything else you feel is relevant to your application or that you would like us to know?

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #1 on: 27 May, 2012, 12:15:30 am »
Hello Snazzy, I'm one of MoX's main Resto Shaman's and I have a few raid-only questions! I know you say you're adaptable but it's always nice to know why a player chooses what they do currently x]

I don't know how seriously you play your current Shaman, whether you're looking for some advice here and there or what not but here's some questions anyway. People applying to MoX aren't known for getting in easily ;D

(ps. My character is in my sig, if you're oh-so curious)

Concerning your Talent Build;

Why don't you have Telluric Currents? Considering this is one of the best talents, if not the best talent we currently have in our arsenal.

Healing in Heroic content, healers are pressured for mana more than ever since we have so much healing to do due to the very high bursts of damage, coupled with taking as few healers as possible to give us as much dps as possible (close enrage timers).

This is the question that's made me most curious as like I say, it's one of the best talents we have currently.

Reforges/Gems/Stats

Why have you chosen the stat priority you currently have?

Normally 10 man Shamans run on this; 916 haste > 2400-2600 spirit > mastery > crit >= Haste

Your build however, you seem to stack haste and crit whilst leaving Mastery behind at a low 11 points. As hard as I try, I can't see the effectiveness of stacking haste instead of mastery. The main problem I see is very simple; Tidal Waves. Because of this one talent, almost 100% of all GHW casts (when taking into account other GCD's such as shields and what-not along with raid damage and when GHW is actually needed) are affected with a 30% haste increase. This makes haste stacking a bit redundant unless you're spam healing GHW nonstop which is a rare occasion. We also have the 4 set to give us that extra haste boost when it is needed ;). You ALSO have the Seal of the Seven Signs which I also have which is yet another haste boost!

Your haste stacking build has also meant you sacrificed one of your best stats just to get some more; intellect. It's only 20 intellect you're losing from both rings and 10 intellect on the gloves, but in the world of HC raiding, min-maxxing is everything for progression. It also seems to be making your enchants a bit wacky, for example you don't have Lavawalker which is pretty much vital for Hagara Heroic and for fights like Madness Heroic/Spine Heroic/Warlord Heroic etc it can prove to be very useful (yes 8% is alot!!)

One final point. You already have a high amount of spirit, but you ALSO have Heart of Unliving, which lets you nuke down your spirit stat and superboost your favoured stat(s) in its place. I'm guessing this is because you don't have Teluric Currents. Ideally you'd have TC with 1800 Spirit, with Heart of Unliving equipped.

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I won't write more for now, just getting my curiosities out the way :)
« Last Edit: 27 May, 2012, 07:57:30 pm by Kenjai »

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #2 on: 27 May, 2012, 09:44:23 pm »
Okay I've read you questions thoroughly and here's what I have to say.
I tried using Telluric Currents before DS came out, however this was not that efficient at that time. I havent actually tried it out since that time, but I would love to give it a shot, but I always thought it was unnecessary because we wouldn't hit the boss with the lack of hit raiting us healers have. But thinking back on it now, all spells do insane damage on some bosses in DS. Thank you for reminding me :)

When it comes to my reforging and gemming, I understand you are curious as to why I reforged and gemmed the way I did. The reason I have so much haste is because I haven't really reforged since I got my trinkets, don't worry, I'm reforging as we speak :) I'm also aware I should get more mastery. Don't really got an excuse as to why I didn't reforge with brains yet, but I've just been caught up playing on my alts (addicting xD).

Moving on, ofc I know I shouldn't be bothered by the bonus I get if it's just 10int, however I didn't think I would try getting in to HC raiding again. I do realize I sound a tad lazy, but I'm really not :) I will ofc change the gems, but you must understand I didn't really bother to change my reforging or gems when I was just doing normal with some pugs.
I thought I wrote I was an engineer, I get rocket boots, but I see the problem if they malfunction. Again, I didn't give it much thought because I will never do Hagara HC with pugs! :P

My spirit is quite high, but like I said, I just got my trinkets. And I will defenitly try out Teluric Currents :)

Thank you for reading my application, and thanks for the tips. Feel free to ask more, I don't mind.





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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #3 on: 27 May, 2012, 10:58:31 pm »
That's perfectly alright. Before I joined HC raiding I slacked off with non-BiS enchants, little to no reforging and not much reforge into my spec so I was much worse in that regard.

It's good to hear you're happy with changing pretty much everything around and giving that a shot though, however I'd recommend getting used to implementing TC into your 'rotation', 5 mans unfortunately isn't good for this, neither is LFR so 10 mans is pretty much the way to go, whether it be BH, FL or DS. On that topic, if you don't currently use mouseover macros or an addon on it, then I heavily recommend getting used to that too.

HC raiding is all about Dedication, Experimentation (with tactics/builds), Execution and of course class knowledge whilst having fun(!!). I think you definitely have the right attitude for this as you don't seem hesitant or 'hellbent' on your build being perfect for you thus you shouldn't change it for the raid. You also seem to be a nice guy which is a major plus when it comes to raiding, can't have fun with grumpy healers now can we? ;D

I don't feel as though I have any major questions atm since you seem to have taken into account what I said in the first post and are trying the changes, so that's good as you're at least experimenting which as I mentioned earlier, is a great plus for HC raiding.

The main things I'd comment on are simply min-max things which in the ideal World would be done. I know you said you weren't originally looking at HC raiding so your character is still lacking in certain areas (albeit not much) but here's them in a simple list anyhow;

*2 maxxed professions good for raiding (I know I can't talk with my Mining and all, but I'm more than likely rolling to monk in MoP)
*Better Gem slotting, for maximum int gain
*BiS Enchants/Tinkers

Other than that it's a simple matter of having the will to learn, putting yourself up to the challenge as HC progression is HARD. Sorry if I come of as a bit 'hardcore elitist shiz', but MoX will be aiming for the top in MoP and whilst we do play to have fun, that can only be achieved if everyone is putting in their all, since wipes aren't fun!

Ps. If you don't like my spec much, then here's the standard cookie cutter; http://db.mmo-champion.com/utils/talents/#k=mvVowrJn.bqj.shaman.

Pps. As I'm a UI addict myself, I can't lie, I am curious to see your healing UI :). This is entirely optional as it's just a personal curiosity from seeing how other healers play.
« Last Edit: 27 May, 2012, 11:16:03 pm by Kenjai »

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #4 on: 28 May, 2012, 12:39:00 am »
Hehe, you seem like a nice guy, Kenjai :)
I tried your spec and tbh it was much better than mine. I tried some dummy-testing to get used with TC, and I think I'm getting the hang of it, although I can't say for sure xD.
I will change my gem and enchants ASAP :)
I have no problem with sending you a picture of my UI, I can send it tomorrow or in a couple of days. I myself find it interesting to see other peoples methods and UI aswell :D (I can tell you this much, I like it clean)

I understand that you guys are aiming for the top, and I'm perfectly fine with answering more questions or anything else of that matter (Feel free to whisper me in-game) :)



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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #5 on: 29 May, 2012, 10:27:33 am »
Spec(s): Restoration, Enchancement

Enchancement: Agility - 17% spell hit - 26 expertise - Mastery - Crit
Red gem: 40/50 agility
Blue gem: 20 agility 20 hit
Yellow gem: 20 agility 20 mastery

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But when I find you on Armory it seems like you're Elemental / Restoration, How come?
I would like to look at your Enchancement talent tree as I'm the only Enh. shaman in the guild :)

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #6 on: 29 May, 2012, 10:47:57 am »
Hey Eric,

First of all thanks for applying to MoX.
Second of all, last time we spoke you said you felt more comfortable raiding on your mage, since you have been playing that a lot.
In my humble opinion you need to play with whatever you feel most comfortable. We do need additional healers in our current roster, but also don't have a single Mage on either team (except for another recruit we just started trialing). Like I said, we're not going to force you to play anything. All I can say is that a healer would be greatly appreciated right now and mages.. I don't know, let's just say we've trialed quite a few mages and not a lot of them lived up to our expectations. So you more or less already have to be great at playing Mage.

Like I said, it's up to you ;)

Please let us know what your decision is, so that in case you're planning on playing Mage we can see if we there's any tips we might be able to give you there, as Kenjai (thanks Kenjai) did for your shaman :)

Kind regards,

/Sagiv
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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #7 on: 29 May, 2012, 01:55:33 pm »
But when I find you on Armory it seems like you're Elemental / Restoration, How come?
I would like to look at your Enchancement talent tree as I'm the only Enh. shaman in the guild :)

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The reason I have elemental atm, is because I pvped with it. I intend to change back :D

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #8 on: 29 May, 2012, 04:28:08 pm »
Hey Sagiv, if its okay with you, I would rather join with my shaman :)

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #9 on: 29 May, 2012, 04:49:12 pm »
Hey Eric,
Could you please tell me when you have changed your spec back to Enh. So I can have a look? :D

I know You're not going to join the guild as Enh. as your Main Spec. But you might need to go DPS on some bosses, and then I would love to help you to do the best DPS as possible. :-)
(If you are not joining on your mage ofc) ;-)

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #10 on: 29 May, 2012, 05:48:25 pm »
Sure Setle, I'm done respecing now, feel free to whisper me ;)

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #11 on: 29 May, 2012, 10:10:15 pm »
Hey Eric.

As a fellow norwegian i would like to say that your application is very good and i like the way you handle the questions the people are asking. To be honest i would be pleased to see u in the guild.

as i am a blood dk i actually have nothing to do with it so i'll leave the rest up to the officers/GM's and the healers.

/sincerely Wipezummoar
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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #12 on: 30 May, 2012, 01:00:12 am »
Thanks for the positive comment Mats :)

Kletsnat, if there's a spot for my mage in a group, I think I would rather join with him. However, since you said you haven't found a mage that brings the wow-factor yet, I don't feel that comfident myself. But if I could do some dummy-tests or whatever infront of you, so you atleast get an impression of my dps, then I would feel more comfident in joining :)

So basically, I would rather join with my mage if possible, but I'm fine with joining as a healer if I don't prove "worthy" with my mage.


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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #13 on: 30 May, 2012, 08:04:55 am »
Can you give an armory of you mage. The link above seems broken.

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #14 on: 30 May, 2012, 09:48:41 am »
Can you give an armory of you mage. The link above seems broken.
The link does work; http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Magebolt/simple

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #15 on: 30 May, 2012, 11:50:44 am »
armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Magebolt/simple

If the link doesn't work, type in "Magebolt" in armory and find the undead mage on Grim Batol :D

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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #16 on: 30 May, 2012, 05:19:44 pm »
Kletsnat, if there's a spot for my mage in a group, I think I would rather join with him. However, since you said you haven't found a mage that brings the wow-factor yet, I don't feel that comfident myself. But if I could do some dummy-tests or whatever infront of you, so you atleast get an impression of my dps, then I would feel more comfident in joining :)

So basically, I would rather join with my mage if possible, but I'm fine with joining as a healer if I don't prove "worthy" with my mage.

I guess I could run an LFR with you somewhere today or tomorrow on my mage, compare your output with mine. But a dummy is not represantative of someone's DPS in a raid at all; all a dummy is good for, is practicing your rotation.

Even comparing damage outputs by running through LFR, doesn't say much since I don't really play my mage that much, so that's not really represantative either I'm afraid. Another option is that you could type /combatlog when you join a pug and record your performance that way and then upload it to worldoflogs.com

A few things I would like to mention with regards to your mage tho:
- Get the BiS chest enchant
- Get crafted bracers
- Gem epic gems in BiS Normal items or higher.
- You'll need to reforge so that you reach both the soft haste and the hit cap. After you've reached those two caps reforge everything according to your stat priority with exception of the haste cap obviously, since you already reached that ^^

Should help getting a bit more out of your mage :)
« Last Edit: 30 May, 2012, 05:27:20 pm by Kletsnat »
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Re: Resto Shaman
« Reply #17 on: 30 May, 2012, 05:43:18 pm »
Sure, I'll try the /combatlog, or join you sometime :)

But I'm not going to spend over 1k on enchants for a LFR-chest. I am in progress of getting cash for epic gems and crafted bracers ^^